Why I Can't Vote for Obama

[Neal Frazier]

Regardless of who is elected, I know who the real leader is.

God simply does not approve of Obama's treatment of children in the womb.

"This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,
Isaiah 44:23-25 (in Context) Isaiah 44 (Whole Chapter)

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart. Jeremiah 1:4-6 (in Context) Jeremiah 1 (Whole Chapter)

McCain understands when life begins. Even with two daughters Obama has no clue.

How many commandments have you broken? Did you support it or condone it?

How about me you might ask? All ten.

Yes, abortion is murder. Denying this fact only mocks God.

The great thing is that Jesus forgives. All you have to do is accept and ask for forgiveness.

No God No Peace
Know Jesus Know Peace

God is in charge. We are just electing a President.
Now, go vote your conscience.

[Audrey]

mine too!

[QuantumTuba]

"God is in charge."

You purport to know God's will and law. On what grounds can you claim to know this, and more importantly, how can you verify this knowledge in the objective manner that makes it reasonable impetus for coercion?

As Thomas Paine, one of our nation's great founders pointed out:

"admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be a revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and consequently they are not obliged to believe it."

However, your supposed knowledge of a deity's will is irrelevant for the following reason. Your supposed knowledge of a deity's will is irrelevant, as the Constitution demands that no law shall be made pertaining to "the establishment of religion." Both Jefferson and Madison further described this as erecting a "wall of separation between church and state."

Your very views on this matter reach the heart of the puritanical oppression theocrats such as yourself have attempted to impose for centuries. Rather than assuming worthiness of state protection on a basis of the capacity for reason or suffering, you assume that the fact that something is alive means it warrants state protection.

What other things therefore deserve the protection of the government? Bacteria, amoebas, plants, and crustaceans are all just as alive. Yet to you, it is the mere fact that a fetus is genetically human that makes it worth coercive protection from reproductive freedom. Well, being genetically human does not significantly modify one's worth, unless we subscribe to some irrational dogma about humans exclusively possessing souls, as no doubt you do.

Perhaps, however, you don't base this upon genetics, but rather upon potential. The argument from potential may be struck down easily. If the potential to become a great human being is sufficient, then what are you doing typing here? Every instant not spent engaged in unprotected heterosexual vaginal intercourse denies a myriad of potential humans their chance at life. You are clearly genocidal according to many "pro-lifers", and maybe even according to you.

Ladies and gentlemen, the puritanical agenda is united, not under a celestial dictatorship, but rather in the pursuit of tyrannical sexual repression on this planet. Ask yourselves what unites their opposition to abortion, homosexuality, sex toys, and contraception. It is that under all of those cases, sexual activities are performed that do not lead to childbirth, Eve's historic punishment from their sky dwelling patriarch. Sex may not be performed simply for pleasure, but rather as God clearly intended: as a utilitarian exercise for the propagation of our species. Under such a system women are doomed to either be restricted by celibacy or serve as child factories. Embrace sexual and reproductive liberation if such a world is not what you wish to see.

Obama '08, because freedom matters.

[M]

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[Lauren M.]

*crowds erupt in applause* This was superb.

[Sydney]

Every instant not spent engaged in unprotected heterosexual vaginal intercourse denies a myriad of potential humans their chance at life. You are clearly genocidal according to many "pro-lifers", and maybe even according to you.

Hahaha. I seriously love you. That is one of the best arguements I've heard in a long time, and I've never heard this particular one.
May have been a tiny bit off-topic, but I only say so because I've quite given up on convincing Christians that their religion isn't right. Some people just need to believe, whether they must ignore proven scientific fact or not.

[marnie childress]

Yes, that's an interesting twist on reality...Proof positive that liberals can turn anything around to suit their argument...I am a prolifer, and I just don't see how my not having sex 24/7 makes me "clearly genocidal".....how much crack did your mother do?

[Maureen Johnson]

Marnie,

You are a bit of a spicy meatball! If you don't mind, could you refrain from saying things like that last remark? The conversation tends to go a bit off track when people start flinging personal insults. It helps us all to avoid things like that.

Thanks!

-mj

[QuantumTuba]

I am a prolifer, and I just don't see how my not having sex 24/7 makes me "clearly genocidal".....

Well then, I hope you have never argued on a basis of potential for your position. If you start from the standpoint that a fetus is simply life worth protecting, rather than worth protecting for becoming life, then you're fine, but if not, my argument still stands.

On the "crack" allegations, perhaps the question is more aptly addressed to one who so casually flings unsubstantiated allegations of stupidity and delusion. However, personal insults are useless, so let's ignore that.

[Katie]

*applauds*

I know I've said this to you way too many times, but you are truly made of awesome.

[marnie childress]

If that dude is made of awesome, we are all up the creek...he's deluded in a major way

[QuantumTuba]

Use facts, not unsupported assertions, and I may take you seriously. Simply calling me deluded is not going to get you any closer to proving anything beyond your own idiocy and immaturity.

[Erin]

QT does it again!!

Bravo!